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Million Dollar Chiropractic Interview with Dr. Steve Querio
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Written by Dr. Steve Querio   
Wednesday, 30 July 2003 00:00

Dr. Steve Querio's M$C Profile

PERSONAL:
Married to wife, Lisa for 5 years and has 3 children; Nikki, age 10; Luke, age 3; and Emily, age 1 1/2.
Recreation and Leisure:  I enjoy spending time with my kids.  I also enjoy traveling and watching Green Bay Packer football. 
Professional Affiliations: Wisconsin Chiropractic Assn., American Chiropractic Assn., Green Bay Chamber of Commerce
Seminar Attendance:  Wisconsin Chiropractic Assn. license renewal seminars; Breakthrough Coaching seminars & various other seminars
Vacations:  I have been trying to take more time off in the form of extended weekends and love to travel to warmer climates in the winter.

PRACTICE PARTICULARS
Clinic:
  We are located across the street from a hospital.  We utilize 9000 sq. ft., which is an entire floor of a 5-story medical office building.  We are quickly running out of room.
Office Hours:   Our chiropractic division is open  8 A.M. to 6 P.M., Monday, Wednesday &  Friday; Tuesday and Thursday, 8 A.M. to 5 P.M.  Our medical division is open 7 A.M. to 7 P.M., Monday through Friday and 8 A.M. to 1 P.M., Sat. & Sun.
Techniques:  Gonstead & Diversified
Staff:  Dr. Querio’s office employs approximately 30 employees.  The professional staff includes 2 D.C.’s, 2 M.D.’s & 1 P.A. in the urgent care, 1 occupational M.D., 1 P.T., 1 P.T.A., 1 massage therapist, a nursing staff, and a lab and X-ray staff.  The office also has administrative staff in management, reception and billing.

M$C: What influenced you to become a chiropractor?
Querio:  As with a lot of chiropractors, I have a story to tell.  I was about thirteen years old and I injured my low back.  I had always been interested in the sciences as long as I could remember.  So, I knew that I would eventually be in some type of health care field.  Following my injury, I visited a local chiropractor, Dr. Gerry Abbeglen, who did a fantastic job and later got me interested in chiropractic.  The rest is history!

M$C: What type of practice do you have?
Querio:  My practice life has been an interesting and exciting experience.  I began my chiropractic career without the incorporation of any physical therapy procedures.  Over time, as I slowly used some various rehab, I experienced the great benefit that the combination of adjusting and rehabilitation has had with my patients.  So, I continued to advance my practice. 
I started by adding massage and physical therapy.  After some time, I decided to bring a medical physician into the practice.  Two friends, Dean Lois, M.D., and Dave Andrews, P.A.-C, and I recently had an opportunity to create a new company by taking over a medical facility and adding chiropractic and physical therapy to it.  This combined facility began March 1, 2003, and we are having a great time.  My partners direct the medical division and I direct the chiropractic and physical therapy divisions.  I can’t say that every step in this conversion has been an easy task.  We’ve had to handle a number of difficult starting issues such as the overall merger of our staffs, combining two different software systems, and changing a large number of procedures.  We use a professional coach who has helped us a great deal in making this a smooth process. 
It was an eye opening experience for me with the different types of issues that a medical facility faces as compared to a chiropractic office.  In one aspect, our facilities are quite different in that medical clinics treat a variety of conditions that don’t typically walk into a chiropractic clinic.  But, on the other hand, we’re similar in that we all try to provide great care and all have the same business concerns.
As far as our practice mix, we are presently trying to develop our chiropractic, occupational and physical medicine, and physical therapy areas.  I partnered with a company that specializes in u u working with multidisciplinary practices to bolster our occupational medicine area.  We also have a mix of reimbursements that range from general insurance, managed care, company contracts, and cash.

M$C: Please describe the size, lo-cation and physical appearance of your practice facility. 
Querio:  Our clinic is located on a fairly busy street in Green Bay.  We are in a medical office building, across the street from a local hospital, and are in a small medical area in the city.  We presently utilize 9000 sq. ft., but would really like to grow into approximately 12-15,000 sq. ft. by next year.  Green Bay is a city of approximately 100,000 people.  Brown County has a population of about 250,000.

M$C: What’s the income service   level that you provide annually?
Querio:  When we took over the medical facility and added the chiropractic and physical therapy, we had to rethink the numbers because we made so many changes.  We cut over $700,000/year in expenses!  We’ve been running the new facility for approximately four months now, and we have been fairly consistent with what we thought we would produce in service.  We certainly have qualified for this article series and hope to have tremendous growth in the future.
M$C: Do you have a margin formula or set profit standard for the business?
Querio:
  I think one of the most important things you can do in a practice is to track the office statistics.  We try to monitor various stats so we always know what direction the practice is going.  Some of these statistics include number of new patients, patient visits, performance of staff, financial stats, etc. 
Some of the standard formulas that we set as goals include collections, where we feel that our practice should be at approximately 80% of services; our Accounts Receivable should not be greater than 2.5 times our monthly services; and we want to keep our cancellation/reschedules below approximately 13%.  Due to the fact that we now have urgent medical care in our clinic where patients may come in for one visit, this significantly alters our previous patient visit average for the overall clinic, so we are coming up with some new numbers.

M$C: Do you have someone to whom you attribute your success?
Querio:  Without question, I attribute my work ethic and determination to my parents.  I grew up in a middle class family and they always taught me the value of hard work.  They always encouraged me to never give up.  Over time, now, I’ve learned that working smart is just as important as working hard. 
I learned a great part of my technique from Larry Troxell, DC.  I certainly consider my present mentor to be Mark Sanna, DC.  He has incredible vision and is taking Breakthrough Coaching to the forefront of the chiropractic profession.  I must also acknowledge my coach, Charlie Schuster, DC, who has helped me through this massive transition of practice.  I am surprised he has an ear left after all of the phone calls I’ve made!

M$C: Tell us about your family.
Querio:
  I have been married to my wife, Lisa, for five years.  I have three great kids; Nikki, Luke and Emily.  Nikki is the social butterfly and I’m sure she’ll be on Star Search someday.  Luke is my “shadow” and goes wherever I go.  He’s very strong willed.  Emily is my little princess. 

M$C: What marketing strategies do you use to attract new patients and to keep current patients?
Querio:
  I have always felt that a combination of internal and external marketing was necessary.  However, I feel that you must always start with internal marketing and plan your external marketing off that.  With that said, our clinic has mainly used patient and professional referrals as a source of our new patients.  We have added a fulltime director of sales and marketing, which has helped greatly.  She mainly works with the occupational area, but we have been having very good success with this.  Marketing is really a relationship game.
As far as keeping the patients we have…I think that if you give patients service that exceeds their expectations, they’ll be patients for life.

M$C: Obviously, every doctor, at some time or other in his practice, experiences problems with patient retention.  How do you handle such problems? 
Querio:
  I think that patient retention starts on Day One.  The patient has to feel comfortable with you and your staff.  I also feel a good report of findings is essential.  I tell it like it is, good or bad.  I’ve never been the type to pressure the patient into care.  I’ve just given good reports of findings and the patients usually understand the need for the care.  When the patient makes the decision to complete a plan of treatment, they will usually follow through.  If they start to fall from care, it’s important that you talk to them about it immediately.
 
M$C: We all know that an efficient staff is a crucial com-ponent of a successful practice.  Tell us about your staff  (How  u you find them, train them, what qualities you look for).
Querio:  As everyone reading this knows, a staff can make or break a practice.  I’ve found that I would much rather hire someone who has a positive personality and passion over knowledge.  I can teach anyone anything; but I can’t teach someone how to have passion or how to be friendly to people.  You either have it or you don’t. 
Unfortunately, in this practice transition, my partners and I have had to make some tough decisions and release a lot of employees.  It never is a fun thing to do, but, if you want a successful practice, you must have the right team in place.  I’ve also learned that keeping a staff member on the payroll when you know they should be released is a huge mistake.  Poor staff members are a slow cancer in a practice.  Get rid of them.  Take it from me, I’ve made (and learned from) every mistake in the book.
I feel that the staff we have now is the “right team”.  We are all working well together and we can see the positive effects of it.  They are working really hard and no practice runs well without a good staff.

M$C: Do you en-joy your work?  How do you feel about going to work in the morning?  
Querio:  I am very fortunate to have two great partners.  We all have our different strengths and work great together.  They were chiropractic patients prior to our partnership, too.  It’s been very exciting to start this new venture and, although it has been challenging at times, I go to work every day with a big smile on my face.  The challenges drive me.  I would be bored without them.  I think, if you start going to work with a frown on your face, it’s time to take a hard look at yourself.

M$C: With your practice being multidisciplinary, can you give our readers your advice about setting up and maintaining such a practice in today’s healthcare system? 
Querio:
  The business of healthcare today is becoming more and more complex.  Certainly, with multidisciplinary practices, there are a great deal of legal requirements.  My advice for anyone who wants to move into this type of practice is to get sound legal, accounting and management advice.  Don’t try to do this on your own!  You should find an ethical and knowledgeable management group.  Research this, as I did, and you’ll be happy you did. 
Also, find an accountant and attorney who are well versed in health care issues.  Don’t just go out and hire your attorney friend who practices PI and divorce law to try to set up your multidisciplinary healthcare practice. 

M$C: Other than traditional chiropractic care, do you include any other type of services or products in your clinic which further help your patients as well as bring in additional revenue to your practice? 
Querio:  This is another area that our clinic is expanding.  We have used orthotics from Footlevelers and have had good success.  Due to the fact that we treat a variety of conditions in our medical and chiropractic departments, we use a multitude of orthopedic devices from Hessco.  These include everything from pillows and knee supports to casts.  We also utilize some nutritional products from Phytopharmica, which is based out of Green Bay.

M$C: Any final words for our readers? 
Querio:  I truly believe that this is a new era for our profession.  I’ve found that every health discipline has its own problems but, if we can put our differences aside and try to become a collective chiropractic voice, there are significant opportunities out there.  Patients are looking for what we have to offer.  If you can keep the positive picture in front of you, you will go far.  Don’t listen to the negative people around you.  Remember, no one ever built a statue for a critic.
You may contact Dr. Querio at 920-497-5711 or
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Our sincere thanks to Dr. Querio and his Staff at Fox River Healthcare, S.C., of Green Bay, Winsconsin. TAC

Editor’s Note:  Do you have a million dollar practice that you’d like TAC to highlight in our Million Dollar Chiropractic column?  Contact TAC’s editor Jaclyn Busch Touzard by phone/fax: 1-305-716-9212 or email: This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .  We want your inspiring story!  Contact us today!

 
Million Dollar Chiropractor Interview with Dr. Deane Mink
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Written by Dr. Deane Mink   
Friday, 30 May 2003 00:00

 

Dr. Deane Mink's M$C Profile

PERSONAL
Married to wife, Sue, for 15 years; 7 children:  Mark, 43; Debbie, 41; Mike, 39; Matt, 36; Mitch, 29; Cheri, 32; and Christie, 25; 10 grandchildren.
Recreation and Leisure:  Fishing and/or netting shrimp almost every week; boating; weekends at Florida waterfront properties; season ticket holder for Univ. of Florida football team. "GO GATORS!"
Professional Affiliations: Georgia Chiropractic Assn., Florida Chiropractic Assn., International Chiropractic Assn., Palmer College Alumni Assn., Valdosta Chamber of Commerce, Better Business Bureau.
Seminar Attendance:  Georgia Chiropractic Assn. license renewal seminars; various other technique and nutritional seminars.
Vacations:  Many extended weekends, mostly to Gulf Coast and Atlantic Coast of Florida; weeklong family vacation the week of July 4th (25+ folks).

PRACTICE PARTICULARS
Clinic:
  9000 sq. ft., freestanding building, includes 13 treatment Rooms, 2 massage Rooms, Rehab Room and Vitamin Shop.
Office Hours:   7 A.M. to 6 P.M., Monday through Friday; Saturday, 8 A.M. to noon.
Techniques:  Palmer, Full Spine, Diversified, Activator, Flexion Distraction.
Staff:  Dr. Mink’s office employs 2 DC’s, 1 Rehab Director, 6 Licensed Massage Therapists, 2 receptionists, 4 chiropractic assistants, an office manager (wife, Sue Mink), and 4 staff in business office.


M$C:   Dr. Mink, what influenced you to become a chiropractor?
Mink:  I was a minor league baseball player, from 1952-1958, with the Dodger organization.  My first chiropractic experience was for treatment of an injured shoulder that threatened my baseball career.  As a result of that experience, I made the decision, with the encouragement of my chiropractor, to pursue chiropractic.

M$C:   What type of practice  do you have?
Mink:  Mink Chiropractic Center is a subluxation-based practice.  We currently have over 4300 active patient records.  The breakdown is as follows:  54% health insurance, 25% cash, 12% Medicare, 8% personal injury, 1% workers comp.  We have all our new patients attend a health care class offered each Tuesday night, and have them bring their immediate family members to get the whole family educated about a drug-free lifestyle.  We treat patients for pain management, but strive to build a wellness-oriented practice.

M$C:  How many hours a week do you work?
Mink:
  Our office is open from 7 A.M. to 6 P.M., Monday through Friday, and on Saturday, 8 A.M. to noon.  I presently treat patients on a three-day work week (Monday, Wednesday, Friday), working about thirty-two hours per week doing patient treatments and the related patient paperwork and records.  My associate, Dr. Ken Register, works about thirty-eight hours per week, Tuesday through Saturday.

M$C:  What’s the income service level that you provide annually?
Mink:  I treat an average of 230 patients per week and my associate, Dr. Ken Register, treats an average of 280 patients per week.  The practice averages one hundred new patients per month.  In 2002, the gross collections for the clinic were 1.6 million.

M$C: Is there someone in particular to whom you attribute your success?  Any mentors, perhaps? 
Mink:  In the early 1960’s, I approached Dr. William Harris for guidance in growing my practice.  Dr. Harris is a retired Georgia chiropractor that still contributes his time and his wealth to the advancement of chiropractic on a state and national level. 
My patients are responsible for my success, as I am now treating the 3rd, 4th  and even 5th generations.  My success is due not only to my own efforts but, also, to the hard working and dedicated staff in our clinic that believes in what we do and in the health of our community.

M$C:   What marketing strategies do you use to attract new patients and to keep current patients?  
Mink:  I have mailed an in-house newsletter quarterly consistently for over forty years.  My patient mail list is updated and maintained in my office.  This listing is of great value.  Patients may drop out of care, but they will come back; and not only the patient that previously received care, but the family, friends and acquaintances of that patient. 
I am, also, involved in the community and contribute to the success of our community.  The local Chamber of Commerce named our office the “Small Business of the Year” for 1999.  The local paper sponsors the “Best of South Georgia”, where the readers’ vote on various categories.  Our office has won the “Best Chiropractor in South Georgia” for the three years since this feature began.  Being a very active positive aspect of our community draws patients to our office. 
Dr. Register has a booth at many of our community shows and health fairs and offers in-business lectures and training. 
We offer lots of TLC to our patients.  We have a state-of-the-art new office, and equipment that projects to the patients that we are here to serve their health care needs for now and the future.  We encourage a family-type everybody-needs-adjustments attitude.

M$C:  Do you enjoy your work?  How do you feel about going to work in the morning?
Mink:
  I LOVE IT.  I am committed to the healing power of chiropractic, and serving my patients is so much a part of my life that I cannot imagine full retirement.  I work because I love it.  We have such a wonderful fully equipped, well-maintained, and professionally staffed office that going to work everyday is like going to Disney World.  My wife and I work together, and when we work—we work hard.  But when we’re off –we play hard.   This makes life well balanced and very satisfying and rewarding.

M$C:  Having such a successful practice which has served the same community for your long professional career, what is your advice about setting up and maintaining such a practice in today’s healthcare system? 
Mink:
  Determine your demographics and make a plan that works in your area.  Start and maintain a mailing list of your patients.  Newsletters are a wonderful way to communicate to large numbers of previous and potential patients and to keep your services in their minds on a regular basis.  Potential patients must feel confident and comfortable with your office, and your staff, as well as yourself.  Your office must be patient friendly. 
Be sure everything you do is ultra ethical—your reputation and your future depend on it.  You must genuinely care about chiropractic and the lifestyle it offers; and you must care about your patients and their families’ health.

M$C:   Other than traditional chiropractic care, do you include any other type of services or products in your clinic which further help your patients, as well as bring in additional revenue to your practice?
Mink:   We have a nutritional shop in our office with everything that works; and we keep it well stocked.  We have a free nutritional class each month for our patients, staff and any family members or guests they wish to bring.  We have all necessary support belts, collars, traction devices and pillows.  We offer custom fitted orthotics.  Our facility has a completely equipped rehab room and we do computerized range of motion and muscle testing. 
We also have two massage rooms available each day for full body massage therapy.  Every day we have licensed massage therapists as part of our staff to do eight minutes of specific trigger point therapy as part of the patient’s chiropractic visit.

M$C:  Any final words for our readers?
Mink:  Chiropractic practices are the reflections of the concept the chiropractor has about his profession.  There are lots of one-man-show type practices around.  This is the concept of the chiropractor and, is perfectly all right.  I know many of these chiropractors, and they are happy in what they do.
My concept has always been “bigger can be better” and we’ve “biggie sized” chiropractic in South Georgia by building the new building and offering so many health related services and products.  We keep it simple for our patients.  Almost 100% of our patients—whether active or occasional—have a good taste in their mouths about chiropractic and are happy to send their family and friends to us.
After forty-two years in my profession, all this sounds like so much hard work for me; but I’ll be the first to admit that having a wife “who runs the whole place,” a young associate who is a wellness disciple and very dedicated, and lots of great employees (total of eighteen) makes my job much easier.
You may contact Dr. Deane Mink by telephone at 229-242-3042, or by e-mail at 
This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .  Visit his web site at www.minkchiro.com.

Our sincere thanks to Dr. Mink and his Staff at Mink Chiropractic Center, LLC, of Valdosta, Georgia. TAC

 
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